Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Media franchises/Archive 2
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What can I do to help?
I was invited to come back here. What could I do to help?--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I confess to not being overly familiar with this Project. But, I'll try. GoodDay (talk) 19:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I echo GoodDay, and what do you want me to do? -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 19:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for replying. The first thing you could do is crawl through the WikiProject to see what it has and see where we need to go from here. Also read through some of the conversations here and on the subpages. After doing that, suggest away! LA (T) @ 20:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, the WikiProject basically deals with co-ordinating the TV/Movie articles (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, what is the trouble? GoodDay (talk) 21:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm gonna have to drop out folks. I'm lost as to what's going on at this WikiProject. I'm just not tuned in. GoodDay (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Portal?
Why not create a portal for this topic rather than a Wikiproject? weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm still not certain as to what's being disputed. GoodDay (talk) 21:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think we're debating the scope, focus (and, tengentially, the point) of a concerted "franchise" project/taskforce/'thing' to help strengthen the links and ties between disparate projects so that there is less disproportionality between pages and sections on aspects of a property that stretches across different mediums. Broadly speaking, Lady Aleena favours creating "X (franchise)" hub pages to summarise the various aspects centrally, working with the tailored projects (books, comics, films, etc.) to then bring the disperate aspects up to speed.
- Current debate is mostly along the lines of whether the mooted "X (franchise)" pages are the best way to proceed, or whether templates and focused use of infoboxes might make more sense.
- Plus associated, spiralling, tangential and exampled debates.
- (Can somebody - weburiedoursecrets... - explain why a portal might be a good idea? And what the underlying and understood differences and strengths are of such a suggestion?) ntnon (talk) 12:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
In project abbreviations
In "The point" two abbreviations are now being used, with two added below to help shorten conversations here. Should they be mentioned on the project page for those who are unfamiliar with them? LA (T) @ 08:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- MF
- Media franchise
- CMP
- Cross-media property
- MBOM
- Media based on media
- MTI
- Media tie-in
- If they seem like (currently) the best descriptions/most accurate wordings, then yes, entrench them somewhere for ease of reference. Which is "the" project page, and does it need rewriting, or merely polishing...? ntnon (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Media franchises is the project page. It will need some expansion as we get a grip on what we are doing here. LA (T) @ 22:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Practical methodology?
I'd like to see the media franchise project's page updated with practical methods (and examples of those methods in real articles/templates) of what the project does. -Malkinann (talk) 09:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- It's coming. :o) ntnon (talk) 19:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Malkinann...please join the discussion, and let us know your thoughts on how we could handle such things as characters and such. That is something we haven't touched on yet. So far the discussion has been more focused on the media and not the non-media articles. LA (T) @ 23:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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Merge soundtrack articles into parent media?
Ntnon has pointed out time and again in previous discussions that most soundtracks are not independently notable. What does everyone think about starting to go through the Soundtracks to find those which need to be merged and those which are independently notable? I am hoping that we can get WikiProject Albums in on this. LA (T) @ 07:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Good idea. However, I think if there is any reasonable doubt, keep the soundtrack as a separate article. Unless the doubt is coming from one of those editors who insists: "NO WAY!! This soundtarck is one of the most improtant albsum EVAR!!! If you don't agree, you're just stipud and shoyuldn't even be editng wikiepdia!" — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 07:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am okay with the idea. But what about the cases when a TV or film article is very long, e.g. for GA or FA articles, when it might seem overly cumbersome to jam in entire soundtrack article (including infobox, track listing, chart performance etc.) into the article? My point is, wouldn't size of parent article also play a role in this merging? LeaveSleaves (talk) 07:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- I guess this would be a good time to mention that this project is planning on creating an all-in-one media infobox just for this purpose. I will start it shortly so that there is a place to discuss what should go into it. LA (T) @ 07:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- That'd be a good move. One more question. Have you decided on criteria for notability? I guess you won't use the criteria that applies to regular albums. LeaveSleaves (talk) 08:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- I guess this would be a good time to mention that this project is planning on creating an all-in-one media infobox just for this purpose. I will start it shortly so that there is a place to discuss what should go into it. LA (T) @ 07:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am okay with the idea. But what about the cases when a TV or film article is very long, e.g. for GA or FA articles, when it might seem overly cumbersome to jam in entire soundtrack article (including infobox, track listing, chart performance etc.) into the article? My point is, wouldn't size of parent article also play a role in this merging? LeaveSleaves (talk) 07:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- (Coming here from WP:TV) I raised this topic before at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_25#Soundtrack_albums (and other editors have probably asked about this as well), but only got one reply. As a hardcore mergist, I'd like the majority of soundtracks to only be split off from the main TV/film article if those get too long. However, some composers like John Williams and Vangelis are famous for their soundtracks, and I am sure people buy these soundtracks without ever watching the films (at least I do that with Vangelis), which makes up for a little independent notability there. I therefore support the proposal to find mergable soundtracks, and would even devote time to help in this undertaking. (Feel free to contact me if ALBUM is fine with this proposal, and work starts.)– sgeureka t•c 10:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think it depends on the size of the independent soundtrack article (just a track listing or not). I don't approve of the idea--while there may be only one soundtrack generally available for a film, that's not the case for musical theatre, where there are often many different productions, each with a soundtrack. Information on each of these will probably be notable (since for a theatre production to release a CD means it was a fairly significant production), and I can easily imagine that a Wikipedia browser might want detailed information on the similarities and differences between different versions of the same show. The show's article doesn't seem like the most appropriate place for that. I understand that where a franchise is involved, the distinction between individual productions may fade somewhat, but franchises form only a part of the total relevant work. DionysosProteus (talk) 14:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- As a participant at WP:Album, I think it depends on whether (a) the album is independently notable (which per WP:MUSIC means has widespread coverage in reliable sources), or (b) the parent (movie, show, etc.) article is large enough to require splitting and there is sufficient information on the album to sustain a full article. If the album is non-notable or the album article too short, then coverage in the parent article is already recommended at WP:MUSIC (space allowing). I don't see much change here, given that. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Agree with Moonriddengirl. As a fellow WP:ALBUM member, I believe that as long as the soundtrack article demonstrates independent notability through secondary sources, then it can stay indepenedent. Splitting should only be done if such sources are present. Otherwise merging is fine, though I dislike seeing tracklists and the like in film articles. Soundtrack albums usually don't include all the music used in the film's soundtrack, and sometimes include songs that weren't actually used in the film. Which begs the question: why would you do a tracklist for the album but not list other songs/pieces that were in the film but not on the album, and/or why would you list songs that aren't actually in the film. My inclination is that a non-notable soundtrack album should be mentioned in a larger section on the film's music, and not have a tracklisting. A tracklist is really only suitable for an independent article and just clutters up the main article unnecessarily. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
This template has been started, now we just need to know what should go into it. Please discuss it on its talk page. Thanks! LA (T) @ 20:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have posted some ideas. --LøЯd ۞pεth 02:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
template problem
see template talk:WikiProject Media franchises. There's a problem with some hanging wikimarkup. 76.66.198.171 (talk) 01:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- This seems to have fixed it, at least on Talk:Tarzan where I saw the problem (but not any longer). Feel free to revert if this screwed up something. – sgeureka t•c 01:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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Images of book covers in book series articles
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Proper page name for The Firm
Please comment at Talk:The_Firm_(Canadian_TV_series)#Requested_move.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:48, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Requested move at Gojira
There is a move discussion taking place here, and the input of any and all interested editors would be greatly appreciated. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 09:29, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
New sister project proposal
Hi, you may want to see this proposal for new project based on fiction. --213.155.255.148 (talk) 19:51, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Input is needed at Talk:List of multimedia franchises#The Hobbit/The Lord of the Rings, on the question of whether The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit constitute parts of a single multimedia franchise. bd2412 T 20:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
I contest to the idea of even having such list. And we really need some help defining media franchises and what features they share.Lucia Black (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not sure what good it does to contest the idea, since the list exists, and has drawn substantial participation and gotten to be pretty well developed. I respect your right to have that opinion, however. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:10, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- i'll continue to contest how WP:STANDALONE deals with list, but overall, it's not practical to organize, and makes it difficult to follow. Its ridiculous to consider it a practical easy to read, informative list. And i know i'm not the only one who sees it that way.Lucia Black (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- Lucia Black, if you and other editors feel that way. I wonder why there isn't a AFD yet? Jhenderson 777 22:48, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- It really does make you wonder why. A (incorrectly titled) list of media franchises led by a couple of users who share a misinterpreted, least valid theory of what constitutes one does not really sound like an article you'd keep on Wikipedia, yet there it is. When I first read the article I almost had a meltdown because 80% of it was not only entirely incorrect, but impossible to fix because everybody keeps pushing their own definition of a franchise so anything you do would end up getting reverted. So even if the article was nominated for deletion nothing would happen because clearly a consensus needs to be reached and that's not going to happen any time soon. The list is, while it had potential, quite sloppy and overly subjective and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. "Franchise" is given an excessively broad definition as well, most likely so the list wouldn't be as long, but it's honestly irritating. This article brings nothing but confusion and frustration. --DesignDeath (talk) 23:43, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- You propose that that the list is "incorrectly titled" and based on a "misinterpreted, least valid theory". However, your opinion on this matter is incorrect. See Tracy L. Tuten, Advertising 2.0: Social Media Marketing in a Web 2.0 World (2008), p. 77:
- It really does make you wonder why. A (incorrectly titled) list of media franchises led by a couple of users who share a misinterpreted, least valid theory of what constitutes one does not really sound like an article you'd keep on Wikipedia, yet there it is. When I first read the article I almost had a meltdown because 80% of it was not only entirely incorrect, but impossible to fix because everybody keeps pushing their own definition of a franchise so anything you do would end up getting reverted. So even if the article was nominated for deletion nothing would happen because clearly a consensus needs to be reached and that's not going to happen any time soon. The list is, while it had potential, quite sloppy and overly subjective and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. "Franchise" is given an excessively broad definition as well, most likely so the list wouldn't be as long, but it's honestly irritating. This article brings nothing but confusion and frustration. --DesignDeath (talk) 23:43, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
A media franchise is a set or series of components based on an original work, generally fiction, such as film, literature, television programming, or video game, involving a story, characters, and setting. The franchise may include multiple installments of the story as well as the merchandising of related products and endorsements.
- Cheers! bd2412 T 01:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- And what does that reveal? If anything, it reveals that a "multimedia franchise" is clearly not a valid term. It's just "media". And where exactly is it stated that two franchises cannot share a fictional universe or a setting? Where is it stated that a comic book publishing company can be considered a franchise? The same book you got that quote from states that "The media franchise is at its core a brand", therefore every individual brand should be listed as a franchise, regardless whether it is related to others. --DesignDeath (talk) 13:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- This is a brand. bd2412 T 13:43, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- No. Marvel Studios is a film studio. Is Warner Bros. a franchise too? --DesignDeath (talk) 13:55, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- I was not referring just to the name "Marvel", for which I could have pointed to their official website, but to the flashing comic book page imagery associated with each of these films. bd2412 T 15:22, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- That's a bit of a silly argument. Lionsgate Films are generally associated with grinds and metallic imagery as well, and what does that prove? It's still not a franchise all of a sudden, it's a film studio. --DesignDeath (talk) 20:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- I was not referring just to the name "Marvel", for which I could have pointed to their official website, but to the flashing comic book page imagery associated with each of these films. bd2412 T 15:22, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- No. Marvel Studios is a film studio. Is Warner Bros. a franchise too? --DesignDeath (talk) 13:55, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- This is a brand. bd2412 T 13:43, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- And what does that reveal? If anything, it reveals that a "multimedia franchise" is clearly not a valid term. It's just "media". And where exactly is it stated that two franchises cannot share a fictional universe or a setting? Where is it stated that a comic book publishing company can be considered a franchise? The same book you got that quote from states that "The media franchise is at its core a brand", therefore every individual brand should be listed as a franchise, regardless whether it is related to others. --DesignDeath (talk) 13:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
@Jhenderson777: this is why no one has AfD it. because when it comes to list, they'll stay regardless if they meet the criteria for standalone lists. Right now, "multimedia" franchise may be too broad. but even so, the idea of a list like this seems to be ridiculous to even attempt.Lucia Black (talk) 21:46, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
- The whole concept of Wikipedia, a volunteer-built encyclopedia collecting all the knowledge in the world, is ridiculous to even attempt - but here we are. bd2412 T 00:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Ok anything else you want to say?Lucia Black (talk) 00:23, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see why I would need to say anything else. bd2412 T 01:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Basically you're saying the idea of wikipedia itself is ridiculous, and yet it manages to work,that's excuse to allow any other things considered ridiculous. Lets cut the speech talk, and stick to real reasoning here. The fact that you chose to use that as a defense shows how desperate the discussion has gone.Lucia Black (talk) 18:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see why I would need to say anything else. bd2412 T 01:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Ok anything else you want to say?Lucia Black (talk) 00:23, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Since the editor who disputed the initial classification of the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit works as part of a single franchise has now been confirmed as a sockpuppet master, and his comments struck accordingly, is there any reason to keep this discussion open? bd2412 T 16:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Star Trek featured portal candidate
Miyagawa and I have nominated Portal:Star Trek as a featured portal candidate.
Commented would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Star Trek.
Thank you for your time,
— Cirt (talk) 02:23, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects?
Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects? If so, please provide your input at User:Mikaey/Request for Input/ListasBot 3. Thanks, Matt (talk) 02:05, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I've just declined a speedy deletion tag for this fictional character who may be better known as "Mr. Belvedere", the subject of a best-selling novel, three films (one of which garnered an Academy Award nomination for Clifton Webb's portrayal of the character) and a five-year television series; I've tagged it on the talk page as part of this project. The article could use some work on references if anyone cares to take that on. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
The time for talk is over and more action!! Masters of the Universe needs an overhaul
Masters of the Universe needs a radical change there are many articles which clearly don't meet WP:NOTE criteria in particular the comic book category and characters and the characters which are noteworthy lack alot of third person info. I adjusted some the character biographies in particular He-Man and She-Ra. I also believe Princess Adora and She-Ra should be merged the same with He-Man and Prince Adam its like Bruce Wayne and Batman having separate articles even though they are the same person.
Dwanyewest (talk) 17:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Spoiler Warning Discussion
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Category:Comics franchises
I think it could be created a new category Category:Comics franchises (similar to Category:Video game franchises) under Category:Comics and Category:Media franchises, where we could have for example Category:DC Comics franchises, Category:Marvel Comics franchises... In these categories we would have Category:Batman, Category:Superman, Category:Spider-Man, Category:X-Men... that not only refer to superheroes, but also to all the things related to these franchises, like films, characters, TV series, videogames, comics... I think it would be better organized than how it is now. --Aliuken (talk) 19:51, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Why are they not mentioned at all either on the list of subjects or even the discussion page. I know they both have their own projects and I believe The Wire is a featured article. Am I missing something? Mikist4 (talk) 00:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Mulitmedia templates
I have created about 200 multimedia templates (see multimedia works towards the bottom of the templates section at User:TonyTheTiger/creations) in the last 2 months. Many have dozens of links such as {{Cinderella}} and {{The Three Musketeers}}, while others have just a few such as {{The Old Man and the Sea}} and {{Gigi}}. I have been trying to make them look as uniform as possible so that if you go to the bottom of a page like Oscar Wilde they all look the same. On that page all of the multimedia templates were created by me. However, on pages like Charles Dickens or H. G. Wells many of the other templates were created by others. I have even tried to make the titles of the templates on these pages look like the ones I have created. After two months of work creating these templates, Robsinden (talk · contribs) has started undoing a lot of my efforts, but in a fairly consistent way. We have reached an impasse on two or three issues:
- Should we include dates in template titles? See Oscar Wilde vs. Charles Dickens.
- Should include foreign languages in multimedia templates. E.g. Rob removed many foreign languages. I think the old version was better, but Rob thinks only disambiguation justifies parenthetical text.
- In the case of ballets or operas such as {{Swan Lake navbox}} and {{Cinderella}} should we include the composer.
Since I am pinging many projects, please hold all the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Navigation_templates#Additional_disambiguation_info_in_navboxes.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Style guide for radio/tv stations?
Is there a guide for this? XXXX-FM or XXXX-CA are sometimes mixed with just XXXX station-IDs. And stations that have gone off the air have sometimes been renamed XXXX (defunct) which makes no sense historically [eventually all stations will become defunct, so this is no way to disambiguate!] – SJ + 21:34, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Added shortcut to the wikiproject
WP:FRANCHISE now redirects to the wikiproject page. Im also considering WP:MULTIMEDIA, WP:MEDIAF, etc. So it can be easier to be found.Lucia Black (talk) 19:37, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
What belongs in this project
I have created hundreds of templates derived from a single original work or subject. Do these all belong in this project. I am trying to determine whether to use Category:Media franchises templates on templates such as {{Cinderella}}, {{Ivanhoe}} or {{The Tell-Tale Heart}}.
- I'd suggest not. They are not "Media franchises" per se, just related adaptations of the same source material. Not sure if there is a suitable category. --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:59, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Hasbro, Claster, Sunbow, 80s
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Animation#Hasbro, Claster, Sunbow, 80s. JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 12:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I went a bit nuts and decided to tackle the creation of a single comprehensive List of multimedia franchises. Please attack this with all your might, adding both franchises to the master list and specific works for each franchise (or summaries of the breadth of works for those franchises that have too many to reasonably list in the table). I expect that some things like Marvel Comics and DC Comics will need to be broken up somehow to indicate the subfranchises with their own multimedia installments such as Batman, Superman, Spider-Man and the Incredible Hulk. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:46, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
The usage of The Tomorrow People (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:The Tomorrow People -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 23:58, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I have initiated a discussion proposing new rules for the treatment of pages that list adaptations, remakes, or other installments of a single multimedia franchise. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:37, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
RFC on The Fast and the Furious
Please consider giving your opinion on the titles for articles about The Fast and the Furious franchise at Talk:The Fast and the Furious#Requested move 2. Thanks! Fortdj33 (talk) 22:10, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think we should go beyond consideration of just this franchise, and have a consistent rule for all franchises. Otherwise, it is entirely possible that we may end up having to turn Star Wars, Star Trek, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter, Jurassic Park, Harry Potter, and Tomb Raider into disambiguation pages. bd2412 T 23:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Archived some threads
I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt (talk) 05:53, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
There is an RfC concerning whether it is appropriate to use pronouns such as "he", "she", or "who" when referring to fictional characters in out-of-universe portions of articles. The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#RFC: Are fictional characters people or objects? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 22:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
WikiProject X is live!
Hello everyone!
You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
The Land Before Time (series) listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for The Land Before Time (series) to be moved to The Land Before Time (franchise). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 17:30, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
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List of multimedia franchises listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for List of multimedia franchises to be moved to List of transmedia franchises. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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Mind Meld
The article about Mind Meld, a film about William Shater's and Leonard Nimoy's experiences with the Star Trek media franchise, has an ongoing featured article candidacy here. Any constructive comments you would be willing to provide there would be greatly appreciated. Neelix (talk) 12:12, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
StarCraft (series) listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for StarCraft (series) to be moved to StarCraft. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 21:44, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
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Sonic the Hedgehog (series) listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Sonic the Hedgehog (series) to be moved to Sonic the Hedgehog. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 21:00, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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RfC notice: In-universe name details of fictional characters, in article leads
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: In-universe name details of fictional characters, in article leads (concerning fictional characters as article subjects generally). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 01:23, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Robert Downey Jr. listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Robert Downey Jr. to be moved to Robert Downey, Jr.. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 09:00, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
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Godzilla-Kong cinematic universe listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Godzilla-Kong cinematic universe to be moved to Godzilla-Kong (film series). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 20:00, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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Final Fantasy listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Final Fantasy to be moved to Final Fantasy (series). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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Evil Dead (franchise) listed at Requested moves
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Transformers cleanup
Organization of articles related to Transformers apparently could use some work. If this is not sorted out, it is likely that material will be piece-meal deleted by AfD participants over time. This is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bug Bite (Transformers). Please contribute your ideas to this discussion. ~Kvng (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Please join the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2016_November_23#Template:The_Magic_Flute.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:13, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
FFD discussions ongoing since June
- Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 September 1#File:Treehouse of Horror.png
- Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 September 1#Tales of Eternia
The above discussions have been ongoing since June. I invite you to improve consensus. --George Ho (talk) 01:35, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I invite you to the ongoing RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 10:17, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Relevant discussion
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Assistance in developing content relating to individual characters across multiple articles in a discussion about how material about a topic of interest to the members of this group. John Carter (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Overhauling the Disney franchise templates for consistency
Please join the discussion about overhauling the Disney Franchise templates for consistency at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#RFC: Overhauling_the_Disney_franchise_templates_for_consistency.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:52, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Popular pages report
We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Media franchises/Archive 2/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Media franchises.
We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:
- The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
- The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
- The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).
We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Media franchises, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.
Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:15, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.
Portals are being redesigned.
The new design features are being applied to existing portals.
At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.
The discussion about this can be found here.
Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.
Background
On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.
Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.
So far, 84 editors have joined.
If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.
If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.
Thank you. — The Transhumanist 10:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bigg Boss (franchise)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bigg Boss (franchise). TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:29, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Portal:Final Fantasy for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Final Fantasy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Final Fantasy until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 10:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Split v. Merge
I am calling people's attention to discussions are ongoing at Template_talk:Dracula#Split and recently opened at Template_talk:Jack_the_Ripper#Merge?.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:29, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Jurassic Park / Jurassic World
Please, have a look at Talk:Jurassic Park ("Wrong statement" section). Kintaro (talk) 22:51, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
This draft is pending review. I will probably accept it but am requesting comments. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:32, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Links to sections of an article from its Infobox
@Punk 911, Aledownload, Brojam, Mythdon, Arcadeice, Powergate92, Fort esc, Lemaroto, Bignole, Freemanukem, MatthewHoobin, TurokSwe, RamshackleMan, Jim1138, Jedi94, JohnnyMrNinja, Cartoonist 101, Enter Movie, WerewolfNightmare, Areaseven, Spshu, *Treker, PanagiotisZois, CompleCCity, DisneyMetalhead, AJFU, Xfansd, Mister Alcohol, Charles Essie, 2a00:4802:2800::255b, Polo, WikiPediaAid, Carniolus, Favre1fan93, 2pou, Trailblazer101, Live Light, Editor-1, AngusWOOF, SCSchubert, Lullabying, CapLiber, 90.254.85.28, Chompy Ace, Adamstom.97, PH 0447, Captain Assassin!, Armegon, and TheDoctorWho:
There is a discussion on the policy that currently says avoid links to sections of an article from its Infobox – section links are used to avoid repeating lists in many instances of Infobox media franchise.
Jim Craigie (talk) 09:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Nancy Drew Featured article review
I have nominated Nancy Drew for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)
and turns it into something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class=
parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.
No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.
However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom
parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Borderlands (series)#Requested move 8 July 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Borderlands (series)#Requested move 8 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 02:53, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't anyone have Pokémon on their watchlists?
Note: this notice is cross-posted at WT:VG, WT:A&M, and WT:JP, as well as WikiProject Pokémon.
Help is urgently needed at Talk:Pokémon. Any positive assistance is appreciated. Thanks! - Manifestation (talk) 15:20, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:John Wick#Requested move 24 February 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:John Wick#Requested move 24 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. -- ZooBlazer 00:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:MonsterVerse#Requested move 31 March 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:MonsterVerse#Requested move 31 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 10:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)